Flash Uploading FTW! This method was already discovered by another member, but I found it on my own after him, since I did not notice his post. This method is commonly known as the '5-10sec method' which a search of the forums should show you. Its a pain in the arse typing 5-10sec again and again and personally I like this name better so I shall refer to it as 'Flash Uploading'.
This method basically involves upload great amounts (anywhere from 1gb-1tb lol) within a very short period, usually a few seconds. what this means is that you set your upload speed to 1048576kB/s (1GB/s) or something higher and tell RM to upload for a few secs. I generally use speeds like 5-10GB/s and 1-2 seconds, and so far I have not been banned in any tracker that I have tried.
This method is called reckless and risky by many but believe it or not, in some cases, this is better than normal cheating. I've cheated normally 4 times on eLbitz with speeds of 90kB/s, but I've still been banned, all 4 times. I've flash uploaded 10GB and I'm safe for nearly a month there. I've cheated 30GB on waffles, 15GB on libble, 40GB on What.cd and I'm safe on all three for more than a month now. Docs.torrents.ro, cZone and BitSoup. None of these sites are very difficult to cheat, but the fact of the matter is that on all of these trackers it was done with 0 leechers!
Anyway, flash uploading also has the benefit that if a tracker does not allow you to download torrents, and say you have a .torrent file from that tracker lying around, then you can flash upload there and save your account, even if there are no leechers in that torrent. Doesnt always work, but its better to risk it than be banned for a low ratio.
One thing is important while flash uploading. That is not to upload TOO LONG. I dont let it run for more than 4secs at the max, but to be safer I would not go above 2secs. So if you want 20GB, set the upload speed to 10GB/s and let it run for 2secs. Or 20GB/s in 1sec. Anyway, its surprising, but you wont appear on the list of fas-*test*-('") uploaders.
Another thing that should be remembered is not to upload TOO MUCH. Try not to go above 80GB, though on places like BitSoup I doubt even if 1TB would be noticed. I generally go for 5-15GB, sometimes more. Depends on the tracker you're using.
If anyone wants to risk it, try flash uploading at HDBits or BitMeTV. You never know :lol: though I dont recommend doing it.
Anyway, hope you enjoyed my little....um....post :roll:
Happy Flash Uploading!
Volker- 12-04-2007
i think it is not a good idea since on some sites you can see the peerlist so other members can report you easily when they'll see the speed. maybe you won't appear on the peerlist when doing it quick, i don't know, haven't tried it yet.
also maybe the mods can somehow see some statistics in your profile that means it will be suspicious for them when they see you upoaded such an amount in such a short time. and the highest upload speed is maybe stored too.
jeff- 12-04-2007
There is some mod for the torrentbits source that reports upload speeds above a certain limit (what Volker said). There used to be threads in some of the forums where the mods would post outrageous upload speeds, along with the username, IP, etc, I think it was wild-bytes. So just be aware that it's as easy as a site having a mod installed.
Also, RatioMaster (which NRPG is based on), was developed because flash uploading gets you banned. The program RatioMaker, well before RatioMaster, relied on this method, but it only worked on sites that didn't have any anti-cheat stuff.
It should be noted that this method wasn't discovered by anybody around here or any time recently. It's basically just modifying the command you send to the tracker, something done since the beginning of private trackers. You could call it the oldest trick in the book.
PKmatePK- 12-04-2007
i think it is not a good idea since on some sites you can see the peerlist so other members can report you easily when they'll see the speed. maybe you won't appear on the peerlist when doing it quick, i don't know, haven't tried it yet.
also maybe the mods can somehow see some statistics in your profile that means it will be suspicious for them when they see you upoaded such an amount in such a short time. and the highest upload speed is maybe stored too.
I think you would appear on the peerlist, but what are the chances of someone seeing you in 1-2secs? :roll:
I'm not sure if the mods will be able to see that, but if even they could, what are the chances of them seeing you if there are, say 10000 members or more? Highly unlikely. As I said, it is quite difficult to cheat at some trackers without this method. eLbitz, for example.
There is some mod for the torrentbits source that reports upload speeds above a certain limit (what Volker said). There used to be threads in some of the forums where the mods would post outrageous upload speeds, along with the username, IP, etc, I think it was wild-bytes. So just be aware that it's as easy as a site having a mod installed.
Also, RatioMaster (which NRPG is based on), was developed because flash uploading gets you banned. The program RatioMaker, well before RatioMaster, relied on this method, but it only worked on sites that didn't have any anti-cheat stuff.
It should be noted that this method wasn't discovered by anybody around here or any time recently. It's basically just modifying the command you send to the tracker, something done since the beginning of private trackers. You could call it the oldest trick in the book.
Well, I've tried RatioMaker on SceneLinks, and I've been banned. Yet, when I flash uploaded the same amount, I wasnt.
I haven't seen a lot of people here actually have some info about this method, and it DID seem as if it was a new idea because someone suggested it, so I went ahead and assumed it was a new idea.
jeff- 12-04-2007
No worries, just trying to warn some people. When I first tried RatioMaker I got banned at a couple sites, but not all of them. If you find some that don't seem to enforce anything, this is a great method.
dabbi- 12-04-2007
@PKmatePK :- can u try this one x264 and ThePlace and let us know the result...
I have been banned there by Ratiomaster with spees of 50-60 on well leeched torrents..
antioink- 12-05-2007
Re: Flash Uploading FTW!
I've cheated normally 4 times on eLbitz with speeds of 90kB/s, but I've still been banned, all 4 times. I've flash uploaded 10GB and I'm safe for nearly a month there.
I got warned on elbitz, for having a bad ratio, So I can't download anything, I cheated there with an old torrent without seeders and leechers.
Without any problem. elbitz it is safe to cheat
dabbi- 12-05-2007
^^^
What was the point in that...
Avoid Mindless Spamming..
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Can u list all the high level trackers where u tried Flash Uploading and how much did u upload in what time..?
NB/TT/ScT/Bitme/BitmeTV ?
RatioKing- 12-05-2007
The question is ... does it get reported to your snatch list or not????
dabbi- 12-05-2007
Well i guess it surely does..!! coz ratio gets updated...and how can calculation be curreect if ur ratio is more than it shows in ur snatchlist
RatioKing- 12-05-2007
what's the difference between it and normal cheating then??
dabbi- 12-05-2007
Thats what i am figuring out..because even if my mistake some MOD checks ur snatch list and sees that u have uploaded 2 GB in 2 secs... ur gone that minute..!!
PKmatePK- 12-06-2007
@PKmatePK :- can u try this one x264 and ThePlace and let us know the result...
I have been banned there by Ratiomaster with spees of 50-60 on well leeched torrents..
Lol, x264? They have a seedbonus system, its easy enough to maintain a ratio there. I cheat only on sites where there is no other way to get your ratio up except by uploading. I have no interest in ThePlace sorry...
Thats what i am figuring out..because even if my mistake some MOD checks ur snatch list and sees that u have uploaded 2 GB in 2 secs... ur gone that minute..!!
As I said, there arent a lot of chances of that happening if the site is a large one...
I've cheated normally 4 times on eLbitz with speeds of 90kB/s, but I've still been banned, all 4 times. I've flash uploaded 10GB and I'm safe for nearly a month there.
I got warned on elbitz, for having a bad ratio, So I can't download anything, I cheated there with an old torrent without seeders and leechers.
Without any problem. elbitz it is safe to cheat
Well, either you have good luck or I have bad luck :?
SonyEricsson- 12-16-2007
And what about RevTT, BitMe, BlackCats or Bit-HDTV? Does this method works? I need to know..
Thanks
btuga- 12-16-2007
very good post man......
maybe one day I´m gone a try this way to cheat....
:)
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